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11:00 am
03/04/2011


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2000AD is an anthology title, and nothing really crosses over to my knowledge. Sometimes there are miniseries that continue a particular story though. And all the Judge Dredd stuff takes place in the universe, not all of which was published as part of 2000AD itself. There's stuff like Judge Dredd Megazine, various miniseries, etc.

12:27 pm
03/04/2011


Ian Aleksander Adams

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so most 2000ad stuff will end up on self contained, with a self contained series tag for the publisher, perhaps?

12:50 pm
03/04/2011


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Yeah, I think so. A number of them will probably have an additional series tag, such as "Strontium Dog" or "Fiends of the Eastern Front." Not sure what to do about Judge Dredd though.

12:53 pm
03/04/2011


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I actually wouldn't mind doing a lot of the legwork on the 2000AD stuff since I've really been wanting to do more research into the title anyway. Would it be possible to upload them all into the Self Contained list at once, the way you did with Marvel? If so, maybe you could send me an Excel document formatted the right way, and I can send it back to you once I've filled it all out.

4:45 pm
03/04/2011


Ian Aleksander Adams

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yeah, I'll send you the excel soon and maybe some more notes on what each column is. 

5:35 pm
03/04/2011


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There are a fair few titles that have crossovers, and other that are obviously in same universe as Judge Dredd. Such as Shimura, Devlin Waugh and Nikolai Dante to name three. I would personally still opt for a 2000AD list separate as there are plenty cases of same stories being collected more than once, but up to you.

A good place to start would be the Judge Dredd Complete Case Files, of which I have 16 plus the two restricted ones, as well as the Anderson one (a direct tie-in).

5:38 pm
03/04/2011


Ian Aleksander Adams

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Well, lets just try and get every book listed offline, figure out what's in it, and then maybe come up with some "universe" and crossover tags. It will be easier to figure out once we see where everything else falls. 

5:45 pm
03/04/2011


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That makes sense, when Marc starts at it I'll send him an email of all the titles I have to help start him off. So far 2000AD have collected 16 years worth of material of Dredd out of his 32 years to make up 16 rammed volumes, so once you get all the tie in's it'll be a reasonably long list. Out of interest have any of you read any of the complete case files?

5:46 pm
03/04/2011


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no, I haven't. The only dredd I've seen, actually, has been the Batman crossovers. 

5:53 pm
03/04/2011


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Very good value, it's amazing how they manage to fit a story into a small amount of pages, some times even only 4 pages! They do it by very compact art using very good fine black line technique and very direct plot writing; probably the best value comic series I ever brought (they are very cheap here)

5:56 pm
03/04/2011


Ian Aleksander Adams

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I'd love to check it out at some point. Obviously my to-read shelves are a little packed right now, hehe, and I don't have the budget for it, but I'll keep an eye out for nutso deals. 

6:01 pm
03/04/2011


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Yeah budget has to be kept, and I don't think adding an extra 7000 pages to your too read pile would be a good thing either. I've still not read a couple of them myself, just so much story in them. Been reading the Irremdeemable books recently and have been quite enjoying them, kinda like The Boys but with less obscene stuff.

6:44 pm
03/04/2011


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I've read enough Judge Dredd stories to be familiar with the character, but I haven't read the Complete Case Files. Your info on those should be really helpful, since they're not made in the US — I believe places like Instock Trades simply import them from the UK.

They have started printing the Complete Case Files in US editions, just in the last year or so. They're going very slowly though, and the third Case File is coming out here in August. They're very affordably priced, and I've been meaning to get the first one. I was going to have that be my first 2000AD book, but went with Harry 20 on the High Rock instead, which I loved.

6:54 pm
03/04/2011


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I didn't realise they have only just been released over there, they have the 18th one out here soon! Along with the restricted editions they released too. I'm not too sure how much stuff they've excluded from them, and whether they will contain the Megazine stuff as well as the main 2000AD programmes later on down the line.

There are a few trades that I know contain stuff that is needed but not collected in the files, Stories of the Deadman to name one, but I need to look into it myself further. It's a very hard thing to sort out as I mentioned before each programme contains a lot of different stories, meaning issue numbers can be the same but different stories! 

I might convince my folks to buy me 2000AD stuff for my birthday so I can check them out a bit more. Never read Harry 20 but I have heard good things about it.

7:17 pm
03/04/2011


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Yeah, I'm familiar with the format and how the progs work and everything; I did a good deal of preliminary research when I got interested in Dredd a few months ago. All i really need right now is a spreadsheet and I can get cracking.

10:05 pm
03/04/2011


Ian Aleksander Adams

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do those books have the same contents/isbn numbers? 

10:22 pm
03/04/2011


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Marc – I sent you a copy of my excel layout. let me know if you've got questions.

1:45 am
03/05/2011


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Ian said:

do those books have the same contents/isbn numbers? 

Same approximate contents, different ISBNs. Should probably just give them separate listings.

1:54 am
03/05/2011


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Post edited 1:55 am – 03/05/2011 by Ian


I guess it depends on if the isbn is more like a second printing of the book or an updated edition. For multiple printings, international or no, if they have the same contents, title, and size (ie, digest vs OHC) then we just give them the same listing for now. 

4:11 am
03/05/2011


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Yeah if there are two editions I'm going with the US one. If only in the UK, then that one's listed. So far I have yet to come across anything with different US/UK contents.


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