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10:20 am
11/24/2010
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| Keyboard Mastermind | posts 76 | |
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I've been getting into the Ultimate Marvel Universe lately, and I just finished reading Ultimate Iron Man Vol 1 based on the placement on Ian's page. But before I continued into Ultimate Iron Man II, I did a little reading up on the ordering of the books/issues. The general consensus out there seems to be that there really is no order, as each story stands on its own and is meant for the new reader anyway. But I did manage to find a different ordering on CBR that, at least at this point in my reading, I like. This is not to say that Ian's ordering is incorrect or inferior to this guy's ordering. Just that maybe it needs more looking into. Anyone have any suggestions? And thanks Ian for your ordering!
001 Ultimate Iron Man
002 Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra
003 Ultimate Elektra
004 Ultimate Spider-Man #1
005 Ultimate Spider-Man #2
006 Ultimate Spider-Man #3
007 Ultimate Spider-Man #4
008 Ultimate Spider-Man #5
009 Ultimate Spider-Man #6
010 Ultimate Spider-Man #7
011 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #1
012 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #2
013 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #3
014 Ultimate Spider-Man #8
015 Ultimate Spider-Man #9
016 Ultimate Spider-Man #10
017 Ultimate Spider-Man #11
018 Ultimate Spider-Man #12
019 Ultimate Spider-Man #13
020 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #4
021 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #5
022 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #6
023 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #7
024 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #8
025 Ultimate X-Men #1
026 Ultimate X-Men #2
027 Ultimate X-Men #3
028 Ultimate X-Men #4
029 Ultimate X-Men #5
030 Ultimate X-Men #6
031 Ultimate X-Men #½
032 Ultimate Spider-Man #14
033 Ultimate Spider-Man #15
034 Ultimate Spider-Man #16
035 Ultimate Spider-Man #17
036 Ultimate Spider-Man #18
037 Ultimate Spider-Man #19
038 Ultimate Spider-Man #20
039 Ultimate Spider-Man #21
040 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #10
041 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #11
042 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #12
043 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #13
044 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #14
045 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #15
046 Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #16
047 Ultimate X-Men #7
048 Ultimate X-Men #8
049 Ultimate X-Men #9
050 Ultimate X-Men #10
051 Ultimate X-Men #11
052 Ultimate X-Men #12
053 Ultimate X-Men #13
054 Ultimate X-Men #14
055 Ultimate X-Men #15
056 Ultimate X-Men #16
057 Ultimate X-Men #17
058 Ultimate X-Men #18
059 Ultimate X-Men #19
060 Ultimate X-Men #20
061 Ultimate Spider-Man #22
062 Ultimate Spider-Man #23
063 Ultimate Spider-Man #24
064 Ultimate Spider-Man #25
065 Ultimate Spider-Man #26
066 Ultimate Spider-Man #27
067 Ultimate Spider-Man #28
068 The Ultimates #1
069 The Ultimates #2
070 The Ultimates #3
071 The Ultimates #4
072 The Ultimates #5
073 The Ultimates #6
074 Ultimate Spider-Man #29
075 Ultimate Spider-Man #30
076 Ultimate Spider-Man #31
077 Ultimate Spider-Man #32
078 The Ultimates #7
079 The Ultimates #8
080 The Ultimates #9
081 The Ultimates #10
082 The Ultimates #11
083 The Ultimates #12
084 The Ultimates #13
085 The Ultimates Annual
086 Ultimate Spider-Man #33
087 Ultimate Spider-Man #34
088 Ultimate Spider-Man #35
089 Ultimate Spider-Man #36
090 Ultimate Spider-Man #37
091 Ultimate Spider-Man #38
092 Ultimate Spider-Man #39
093 Ultimate X-Men #21
094 Ultimate X-Men #22
095 Ultimate X-Men #23
096 Ultimate X-Men #24
097 Ultimate X-Men #25
098 Ultimate X-Men #26
099 Ultimate X-Men #27
100 Ultimate War #1
101 Ultimate War #2
102 Ultimate War #3
103 Ultimate War #4
104 Ultimate X-Men #28
105 Ultimate X-Men #29
106 Ultimate X-Men #30
107 Ultimate X-Men #31
108 Ultimate X-Men #32
109 Ultimate X-Men #33
110 Ultimate Spider-Man #40
111 Ultimate Spider-Man #41
112 Ultimate Spider-Man #42
113 Ultimate Spider-Man #43
114 Ultimate Spider-Man #44
115 Ultimate Spider-Man #45
116 Ultimate Spider-Man #½
117 Ultimate X-Men #34
118 Ultimate X-Men #35
119 Ultimate X-Men #36
120 Ultimate X-Men #37
121 Ultimate X-Men #38
122 Ultimate X-Men #39
123 Ultimate Spider-Man #47
124 Ultimate Spider-Man #48
125 Ultimate Spider-Man #49
126 Ultimate Spider-Man #50
127 Ultimate Spider-Man #51
128 Ultimate Spider-Man #52
129 Ultimate Spider-Man #53
130 Ultimate Spider-Man #46
131 Ultimate Six #1
132 Ultimate Six #2
133 Ultimate Six #3
134 Ultimate Six #4
135 Ultimate Six #5
136 Ultimate Six #6
137 Ultimate Six #7
138 Ultimate Spider-Man #54
139 Ultimate Spider-Man #55
140 Ultimate Spider-Man #56
141 Ultimate Spider-Man #57
142 Ultimate Spider-Man #58
143 Ultimate Spider-Man #59
144 Ultimate X-Men #40
145 Ultimate X-Men #41
146 Ultimate X-Men #42
147 Ultimate X-Men #43
148 Ultimate X-Men #44
149 Ultimate X-Men #45
150 Ultimate X-Men #46
151 Ultimate X-Men #47
152 Ultimate X-Men #48
153 Ultimate X-Men #49
154 Ultimate Fantastic Four #1
155 Ultimate Fantastic Four #2
156 Ultimate Fantastic Four #3
157 Ultimate Fantastic Four #4
158 Ultimate Fantastic Four #5
159 Ultimate Fantastic Four #6
160 Ultimate Fantastic Four #7
161 Ultimate Fantastic Four #8
162 Ultimate Fantastic Four #9
163 Ultimate Fantastic Four #10
164 Ultimate Fantastic Four #11
165 Ultimate Fantastic Four #12
166 Ultimate Spider-Man #60
167 Ultimate Spider-Man #61
168 Ultimate Spider-Man #62
169 Ultimate Spider-Man #63
170 Ultimate Spider-Man #64
171 Ultimate Spider-Man #65
172 Ultimate Spider-Man #66
173 Ultimate Spider-Man #67
174 Ultimate Spider-Man #68
175 Ultimate Spider-Man #69
176 Ultimate Spider-Man #70
177 Ultimate Spider-Man #71
178 Ultimate Spider-Man #72
179 Ultimate Spider-Man #73
180 Ultimate Spider-Man #74
181 Ultimate Spider-Man #75
182 Ultimate Spider-Man #76
183 Ultimate Spider-Man #77
184 Ultimate Spider-Man #78
185 Ultimate Spider-Man #79
186 Ultimate Spider-Man #80
187 Ultimate Spider-Man #81
188 Ultimate Spider-Man #82
189 Ultimate Spider-Man #83
190 Ultimate Spider-Man #84
191 Ultimate Spider-Man #85
192 Ultimate X-Men #50
193 Ultimate X-Men #51
194 Ultimate X-Men #52
195 Ultimate X-Men #53
196 Ultimate Fantastic Four #13
197 Ultimate Fantastic Four #14
198 Ultimate Fantastic Four #15
199 Ultimate Fantastic Four #16
200 Ultimate Fantastic Four #17
201 Ultimate Fantastic Four #18
202 Ultimate Fantastic Four #19
203 Ultimate Fantastic Four #20
204 Ultimate Galactus
205 Ultimate Fantastic Four #21
206 Ultimate Fantastic Four #22
207 Ultimate Fantastic Four #23
208 Ultimate Fantastic Four #24
209 Ultimate Fantastic Four #25
210 Ultimate Fantastic Four #26
211 Ultimate Fantastic Four Annual #1
212 Ultimate Fantastic Four #27
213 Ultimate Fantastic Four #28
214 Ultimate Fantastic Four #29
215 Ultimate Fantastic Four #30
216 Ultimate Fantastic Four #31
217 Ultimate Fantastic Four #32
218 Ultimate X-Men #54
219 Ultimate X-Men #55
220 Ultimate X-Men #56
221 Ultimate X-Men #57
222 Ultimate X-Men #58
223 The Ultimates 2 #1
224 The Ultimates 2 #2
225 The Ultimates 2 #3
226 The Ultimates 2 #4
227 The Ultimates 2 #5
228 Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk
229 Ultimate Spider-Man Annual #1
230 Ultimate Spider-Man #86
231 Ultimate Spider-Man #87
232 Ultimate Spider-Man #88
233 Ultimate Spider-Man #89
234 Ultimate Spider-Man #90
235 Ultimate X-Men #59
236 Ultimate X-Men #60
237 Ultimate X-Men #61
238 Ultimate X-Men #62
239 Ultimate X-Men #63
240 Ultimate X-Men #64
241 Ultimate X-Men #65
242 Ultimate X-Men Annual #1
243 Ultimate Spider-Man #91
244 Ultimate Spider-Man #92
245 Ultimate Spider-Man #93
246 Ultimate Spider-Man #94
247 The Ultimates 2 #6
248 The Ultimates 2 #7
249 The Ultimates 2 #8
250 The Ultimates 2 #9
251 The Ultimates 2 #10
252 The Ultimates 2 #11
253 The Ultimates 2 #12
254 The Ultimates 2 #13
255 The Ultimates 2 Annual
256 Ultimate X-Men #66
257 Ultimate X-Men #67
258 Ultimate X-Men #68
259 Ultimate X-Men #69
260 Ultimate X-Men #70
261 Ultimate X-Men #71
262 Ultimate X-Men #72
263 Ultimate X-Men #73
264 Ultimate X-Men #74
265 Ultimate X-Men Annual #2
266 Ultimate X-Men + Fantastic Four #1
267 Ultimate Fantastic Four + X-Men #2
268 Ultimate Fantastic Four #33
269 Ultimate Fantastic Four #34
270 Ultimate Fantastic Four #35
271 Ultimate Fantastic Four #36
272 Ultimate Fantastic Four #37
273 Ultimate Fantastic Four #38
274 Ultimate Spider-Man #95
275 Ultimate Spider-Man #96
276 Ultimate Spider-Man #97
277 Ultimate Spider-Man #98
278 Ultimate Spider-Man #99
279 Ultimate Spider-Man #100
280 Ultimate Spider-Man #101
281 Ultimate Spider-Man #102
282 Ultimate Spider-Man #103
283 Ultimate Spider-Man #104
284 Ultimate Spider-Man #105
285 Ultimate X-Men #75
286 Ultimate X-Men #76
287 Ultimate X-Men #77
288 Ultimate X-Men #78
289 Ultimate X-Men #79
290 Ultimate X-Men #80
291 Ultimate X-Men #81
292 Ultimate X-Men #82
293 Ultimate X-Men #83
294 Ultimate X-Men #84
295 Ultimate X-Men #85
296 Ultimate X-Men #86
297 Ultimate X-Men #87
298 Ultimate X-Men #88
299 Ultimate Fantastic Four #39
300 Ultimate Fantastic Four #40
301 Ultimate Fantastic Four #41
302 Ultimate Fantastic Four #42
303 Ultimate Fantastic Four #43
304 Ultimate Fantastic Four #44
305 Ultimate Fantastic Four #45
306 Ultimate Fantastic Four #46
307 Ultimate Power
308 Ultimate Fantastic Four #47
309 Ultimate Fantastic Four #48
310 Ultimate Fantastic Four #49
311 Ultimate Fantastic Four #50
312 Ultimate Fantastic Four #51
313 Ultimate Fantastic Four #52
314 Ultimate Fantastic Four #53
315 Ultimate Spider-Man Annual #2
316 Ultimate Spider-Man #106
317 Ultimate Spider-Man #107
318 Ultimate Spider-Man #108
319 Ultimate Spider-Man #109
320 Ultimate Spider-Man #110
321 Ultimate Spider-Man #111
322 Ultimate X-Men #89
323 Ultimate X-Men #90
324 Ultimate X-Men #91
325 Ultimate X-Men #92
326 Ultimate X-Men #93
327 Ultimate Spider-Man #112
328 Ultimate Spider-Man #113
329 Ultimate Spider-Man #114
330 Ultimate Spider-Man #115
331 Ultimate Spider-Man #116
332 Ultimate Spider-Man #117
333 Ultimate Spider-Man #118
334 Ultimate Spider-Man #119
335 Ultimate Spider-Man #120
336 Ultimate Spider-Man #121
337 Ultimate Spider-Man #122
338 Ultimate Spider-Man #123
339 Ultimate Spider-Man #124
340 Ultimate Spider-Man #125
341 Ultimate Spider-Man #126
342 Ultimate Fantastic Four #54
343 Ultimate Fantastic Four #55
344 Ultimate Fantastic Four #56
345 Ultimate Fantastic Four #57
346 Ultimate Human
347 Ultimate X-Men #94
348 Ultimate X-Men #95
349 Ultimate X-Men #96
350 Ultimate X-Men #97
351 The Ultimates 3 #1
352 The Ultimates 3 #2
353 The Ultimates 3 #3
354 The Ultimates 3 #4
355 The Ultimates 3 #5
356 Ultimate Fantastic Four + X-Men Annual #1
357 Ultimate X-Men + Fantastic Four Annual #1
358 Ultimate Origins
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10:50 am
11/24/2010
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Ian
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|  Final Boss | posts 1875 | |
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I haven't worked on this list for at least a year or so, haha, so there could definitely be some tweaking.
As for whether everything can be read on its own though, I'd disagree – while if you're only interested in one title you can get by reading that one title (like most comics, really) but there is a LOT of crossover between the titles and things start not being weird pretty quick if you're reading out of order.
As for that list, I've seen it before, but I can't remember exactly where or why I made mine differently. If you've got specific advice about placings, that might help jog my memory. I wasn't keeping as good notes in those days, haha
There are some continuity errors, I remember, especially in the Team Up title, which they seemed to just not care about continuity with. But like I said, I haven't read these books in a good while.
Feel free to go at it and let me know what your thoughts are.
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11:03 am
11/24/2010
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| Keyboard Mastermind | posts 76 | |
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Hi Ian,
I hope you don't think I was being critical. :) I have NO CLUE how to organize a reading order like this one. But I'll see what I can do.
It goes without saying that we can't go by publication date because it started in 2000 with Ultimate Spider Man #1 I think.
After I read Ultimate Iron Man II, I'll see what I can come up with. I may run out to get the "Official Handbooks of the Ultimate Marvel Universe," though they are story line specific. Meaning, there are 3 volumes: Fantastic Four and Spider Man; Ultimate Secrets; and Ultimates & X Men. I would prefer a giant book with all the Ultimate Universe characters in it or something.
Anyway, I'll let you know if I find anything.
Thanks!
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11:15 am
11/24/2010
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Ian
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| Final Boss | posts 1875 | |
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There's nothing wrong with being critical. I'm not sure how that word started being a bad thing. *shrug*
You shouldn't need the handbook.
What I did was look at what lists were available for issues at the time, roughly arrange all my books on the shelf in that order, read them all, and then shift things around by what made sense. Only those few ones at the start are the ones that needed consulting dates on. the rest are pretty easy be events in the book and concurrent release dates – basically, they run normally, then some event or crossover happens that require one book to be shifted one place or two.
I'm pretty confident that the reading order I've got up is good, seeing as that's what I ended up with when I was done reading all the books up until Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 21. I haven't gotten to anything after that.
But if you notice a specific mistake in the books while reading them, just let me know and we'll shift it.
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11:30 am
11/24/2010
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Ian
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| Final Boss | posts 1875 | |
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Taking another look at that issue ordering, it's actually very similar to mine – but you've got to take into account how things are collected in trades (all of team up for example.) But basically, and perhaps except for a few major changes (I didn't look over the whole thing in detail) it's pretty close.
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11:45 am
11/24/2010
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| Keyboard Mastermind | posts 76 | |
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Yes, I agree. I just notice that you have FF a bit earlier for example. Again, I personally don't think reading order is as important with the Ultimate Universe as it is with the regular Marvel U. Especially since they are sort of redoing it all anyway. But it's fun to play around with. Back to reading!
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3:52 pm
11/24/2010
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Ian
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| Final Boss | posts 1875 | |
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yeah, FF is earlier because they are mentioned in the first volume of ultimate spider-man.
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4:13 pm
11/24/2010
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| Keyboard Mastermind | posts 76 | |
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Coolness. I should be getting that first volume in about a week or so. I already have Vol 11 through to the end in floppy form, and I just today received Vol 3 and 5 in the mail. Looking forward to spending some time with that title.
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4:18 pm
11/24/2010
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Ian
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| Final Boss | posts 1875 | |
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I remember Early Ultimate Fantastic Four being my favorite.
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9:43 am
11/25/2010
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| Keyboard Mastermind | posts 76 | |
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Ok, so I did my best to put the above in trade order. Here's what I come up with:
001 Ultimate Iron Man Vol 1
002 Ultimate Iron Man Vol 2
003 Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra
004 Ultimate Elektra
005 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 1
006 Ultimate Marvel Team Up Vol 1
007 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 2
008 Ultimate X-Men Vol 1
009 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 3
010 Ultimate Marvel Team Up Vol 2
011 Ultimate X-Men Vol 2
012 Ultimate X-Men Vol 3
013 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 4
014 The Ultimates Vol 1
015 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 5
016 The Ultimates Vol 2
017 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 6
018 Ultimate X-Men Vol 4
019 Ultimate X-Men Vol 5
020 Ultimate X-Men Vol 6
021 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 7
022 Ultimate X-Men Vol 7
023 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 8
024 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 9
025 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 10
026 Ultimate X-Men Vol 8
027 Ultimate X-Men Vol 9
028 Ultimate Fantastic Four Vol 1
029 Ultimate Fantastic Four Vol 2
030 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 11
031 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 12
032 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 13
033 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 14
034 Ultimate X-Men Vol 10
035 Ultimate Fantastic Four Vol 3
036 Ultimate Fantastic Four Vol 4
037 Ultimate Galactus Book 1
038 Ultimate Galactus Book 2
039 Ultimate Galactus Book 3
040 Ultimate Fantastic Four Vol 5
041 Ultimate Fantastic Four Vol 6
042 Ultimate X-Men Vol 11
043 The Ultimates 2 Vol 1
044 Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk
045 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 15
046 Ultimate X-Men Vol 12
047 Ultimate X-Men Vol 13
048 Ulitmate Spider-Man Vol 16
049 The Ultimates 2 Vol 2
050 Ultimate X-Men Vol 14
051 Ultimate X-Men Vol 15
052 Ultimate X-Men/Fantastic Four
053 Ultimate Fantasic Four Vol 7
054 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 17
055 Ultimate X-Men Vol 16
056 Ultimate X-Men Vol 17
057 Ultimate Fantastic Four Vol 8
058 Ultimate Fantastic Four Vol 9
059 Ultimate Power
060 Ultimate Fantastic Four Vol 10
061 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 18
062 Ultimate X-Men Vol 18
063 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 19
064 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 20
065 Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 21
066 Ultimate Fantastic Four Vol 11
067 Ultimate Human
068 Ultimate X-Men Vol 19
069 The Ultimates 3
070 Ultimate Origins
The differences between this list and Ian's list are slight, but they could make a difference. I'm going to try this order and report back. In full disclosure, I did not come up with this on my own nor have I read through the books like Ian has. I just did a bit of searching and this, in my opinion, was the better one out there aside from Ian's site. We'll see how it goes. Any suggestions are welcome.
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10:02 am
11/25/2010
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Ian
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looking forward to getting your feedback. I definitely think you'll have some thoughts about the fantastic four placement, at least.
of course, most importantly, enjoy! There are a lot of super fun comics on that list.
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10:49 am
11/25/2010
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| Keyboard Mastermind | posts 76 | |
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Hey Ian, Happy Thanksgiving with the cats! I'm with my cats at the moment, but I'm lucky enough to have my sister living about 3 minutes away, so I'm headed there in a couple of hours to catch some football and eat, eat, eat. But I've spent a few Turkey-Days alone, having lived in London before, so I do feel your pain. :)
Anyway, I notice on your list you have Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 9 preceding Vol 8. Is that a typo or was it deliberate? I ask because I've read that issue 46 is actually considered "out of order" when it comes to issues 45 and 47. Thoughts?
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10:55 am
11/25/2010
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Ian
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| Final Boss | posts 1875 | |
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oh jeeze, I can hardly remember. But it's like that in my offline list too, so it seems intentional, haha.
Volume 9 contains "Ultimate Spider-Man 46, Ultimate Six 1-7" and volume 8 has "Ultimate Spider-Man 47-53" so it looks like the switch may be for a reason. I probably decided it read better like that. I want to say that it would be for some important reason, because I HATE putting things out of number order on the shelf, but I can't remember why I did it at the time, haha.
I was making that list long before I ever thought any of this would be online, unfortunately. Nowadays I could just go back and check the comments or the blog post or something haha
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8:44 am
02/16/2011
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Just been doing a major read through Ultimate Universe and have been enjoying it so far, even though practically every single character is a young adult. I even managed to get a few bargains, i.e. trades for around £1-2 (+p&p).
The best bargain I found was that the UK Marvel publisher (Panini) did a trilogy box-set for Fantastic Four TPB's 2, 3 and 4 which I got for a very low price.
The only slight annoyance is that the v4 isn't the standard one (19-20+annual) its bigger (19-23). It's annoying as they didn't resize the UK v5 so v5 still collects 21-26, and I can't seem to find any other option than get v5 for the 3 issues not already in my collection. Luckily Amazon had v5 up for ~£3 so that's cool.
Another little twist to this is that the repeated issues (21-23) are also collected in Marvel Zombies: Dead Days TPB, so I will have those 3 issues 3 times!
That same TPB (d.days) also collects UF4 #30-32 from their v6!!!! I am going to have lots of repeated issues at this point in the time-line.
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12:46 pm
02/16/2011
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Ian
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| Final Boss | posts 1875 | |
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yeah, I think that was really the point – to hook back into young audiances who had trouble related to say, a married spider-man.
There are definitely some weird things with the reprint volumes and lots of options. I probably won't be hitting the uk ones on my list (though I bet people will appreciate the note you left!) but I'll add in the ultimate collections, etc, at some point soon!
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1:02 am
02/17/2011
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I was just reading through some of the earlier comments in this thread, and thought I'd mention something regarding Ultimate FF. The mentions of the FF in Ultimate Spider-Man are actually a continuity gaffe; the Fantastic Four don't come into being in the Ultimate Universe until after Spider-Man has been around for a little while.
Similarly, any pre-UFF mentions of Doom and Latveria are considered out-of-continuity, as are several issues of Ultimate Marvel Team-Up — most notably, the one featuring the Fantastic Four.
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1:11 am
02/17/2011
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Ian
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| Final Boss | posts 1875 | |
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Really?
How do you determine that? It seemed to work pretty well to me to just have the ff volumes first. I hadn't head that before.
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1:41 am
02/17/2011
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Marc
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| With Great Power… | posts 566 | |
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All that stuff is straight from the horse's (i.e., Bendis's) mouth. He's admitted that Ultimate Fantastic Four was an afterthought to everything he was doing in the beginning….at that point, he and Mark Millar were basically just working off the assumption that there was an older, more experienced version of the FF running around in the Ultimate Universe, filling basically the same role as the 616 FF. This can be seen in offhand references to Reed Richard and the FF in various issues of Ultimate Spider-Man and The Ultimates.
Once UFF started coming out, it was theorized by a lot of people that this would eventually be explained through some sort of time travel plot. That never actually happened, though.
More about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Fantastic_Four#Continuity_problems
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1:47 am
02/17/2011
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Ian
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| Final Boss | posts 1875 | |
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aint life a bitch. well, in the past I've decided to ignore creator opinion if it makes reading less enjoyable – wish that wasn't the case, but since we're dealing with shared universes, well.. no one's "right" anymore.
I definitely felt it was better to have read ff first and didn't think the spider-man references were that out of line assuming an already existing but young FF. Basically, it just seemed like they were pretty respected for youngsters.
the team up stuff, of course, seemed all kinds of whack, but it was pretty easy to see that it wasn't attempting to make sense .
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1:58 am
02/17/2011
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Marc
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| With Great Power… | posts 566 | |
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Remember "That's My Bush"? Sometimes I think they should remake that show, except under the title "That's My Bendis."
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