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Batman: City of Crime |
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| Includes Issues: | Detective Comics 800-808, 811-114 | |
| Original Publication Dates: | January 2005 - February 2006 | |
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| Pages: | [More Info] |
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Sometimes a book is listed here based upon a past solicitation, but never actually comes out. I like to keep these in the database, but I try to make a note of the situation.
I try to list the earliest publication date. For books with a hardcover and softcover or multiple editions this will be for whichever came first. Same for the ISBN numbers.
If there have been similar releases that have significant differences, eventually both will be listed. This means that Showcase and Archives that collect similar material are listed as separate books. Likewise, Omnibus, Deluxe, or Absolute editions will have a separate page, though they will probably be close in the timeline.
If you think any of the information on this page is off, feel free to leave a comment with a suggestion! You may also leave links to relevant information, alternative publications, reviews, or anything you think would be helpful to site visitors.
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| Characters: | Batman, Stephanie Brown | |
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Since there is so much information to be found in each book, it's relatively common for a couple tags to be missed. If you think this book needs attention - should be given any additional tags or moved off a particular list, for example - just leave me a comment and I'll get right back to you!
The Lists are large reading orders including every book that falls under them. For example, the DC Universe list includes every book in that shared universe. This taxonomy is hierarchical, which means that there can be sub-lists under the main lists. The DC Universe Pre-Crisis list is an example, allowing you to narrow the selection of DC books. The distinction is important, because eventually there will be Silver Age book lists for Marvel and DC, and the lists will not be intermingled because of that hierarchy. Look to the list information in the sidebar to see all the lists currently active. Check the header of each listing for specific information about each one.
The Series/Event taxonomy, like the rest, is not hierarchical. Not every book is part of a particular publication series, nor necessarily included in the reading order for an event. Events often include specific crossovers and tie-ins, but many event reading orders also include books purely because they are recommended for appreciation and understanding of that event.
The Creators will be tagged in every book in the database. These include all the writers, artists, and editors that worked on the collected material, as well as anyone who significantly contributed to the collected edition.
The Characters are very important to this database, since most users enjoy seeing a reading list generated by their favorite heroes and villains. Since each book is tagged with any reoccurring character inside, the amount of orders that can be generated through these tags is staggering.
Since there is so much information to be found in each book, it's relatively common for a couple tags to be missed. If you think this book needs attention - should be given any additional tags or moved off a particular list, for example - just leave me a comment and I'll get right back to you!
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At this time, they go by the Recommended Reading Order (or equivalents for non-DCU lists) for determining which books to link.
I am currently looking into getting them to give direction based on what page you came from, but it's possible that there is no solution to that issue.
| Unique Reading Order ID: | 200902071200 | |
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| TRO Database Book ID: | 818 | [More Info] |
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The Chronological List Value is determined by the most recent publication date of collected contents. This value determines book placement on all lists generated chronologically.
The TRO Database Book ID is a value indicative of when this book was added. It is used primarily for reference within the TRO database and not for sorting. It used to help with interpage linking, but has been replaced with a more user friendly "slug" (web url title) system.
These values are provided for the purposes of sorting your own collections. You could keep an excel spreadsheet or google document with the titles of the books in your collection. In columns next to the books, place each of these numbers. Then when you display the list sorted numerically by either of these columns, your books will fall into order.
Of course, now that TRO's built in collection sorting feature is active, it's much easier to sort your books. But these numbers still display just in case you'd like to use them or are curious about the inner operation of the website.
This one’s not going to end up being part of my big infinite crisis update, so I thought it best I comment on it now, lest I forget.
The book explicitly identifies itself as taking place prior to the War Games saga. (yay for helpful books!) So, it has to take place prior to War Drums, and after No Man’s Land Vol. 5 There’s no indication of whether it takes place before or after the Bruce Wayne: Fugitive story arc so I’m gonna assume that’s its after.
But rather than putting it with all the fugitive books or with the war games books, I thought you might could find a place somewhere inbetween so the Batman books don’t cluster together quite as much. Hopefully that makes sense.
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Makes perfect sense. I’ll find a place for it and include a note about it in the next batch of book updates I’m doing right now.
With the site going faster, it’s going a loooooot smoother.
Is the site working for you nicely? I decided to put in backup pagination just in case ;)
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hm. without knowing more specifics, I think I’ll probably place it right before War Drums. It means a little clustering, but do you know where it should be placed in relation to, for example, Hush, Broken City, Death and the Maidens, and As The Crow Flies? I have no idea.
Let’s consider it tentatively placed before War Drums and we’ll move it again later if we have to. Not a big deal.
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Ok, on further analysis I’ve been able to narrow the range again — It definitely takes place after Officer Down and before S/B: Public Enemies. That much can be confirmed by the status of a couple of characters…
Beyond that, honestly like the Lex book, we have the same problem that it doesn’t identify itself more specifically to a time period and actually directly contradicts continuity (part of the plot involves a mayoral re-election campaign — but there is an established history of mayors in Gotham, and this guy isn’t one of them.)
So what I’m going to suggest is a little “creative” but hopefully this will suit you. Since this could go anywhere in that era, I went through looking for any plot threads that would work well with other books, some way to tie this into continuity that would make a little sense (despite the mayor thing.) What I went with is the status of a villain who plays a minor role here… he is at large at the beginning and ending of this book, and then goes on to play a major role in the first Gotham Central trade, where he begins at large and is arrested by the end.
So what I’m going to suggest is that this book be placed between Supergirl: Many Happy Returns and Gotham Central: In the Line of Duty. So few ongoing Batman characters make an appearance here that it’s pretty tricky, but this seems as good a place as any and at least will flow relatively naturally.
What do you think?
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That sounds good to me. Definitely the kind of reasoning I found myself using all the time with the early batman books, haha
It’s moved to the new place now.
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yeh, its working better than it ever has. quick and smooth. good job!
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Thanks man! I’m getting to be so proud of it. It may not be the prettiest site out there, but it’s a slick little bugger – and bigger than it looks.
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